Is it 50-60 hp with no other mods but the ecm
( Jeff, 05/23/2024 )
That is correct! ( Support )
We already have a Banks exhaust system instaled on our 2004 W22 based RV. Will this work with the Banks system?
( Ashley, 11/02/2023 )
Yes, this is compatible with the Banks system. ( Support )
Will this work for a 2002 Chevy C3500HD 8.1l with 5-sp manual NV4500?
( Matthew, 10/20/2023 )
Yes, it will! ( Support )
If I get the tuned ecm for my 2006 chevy c5500 rv, do you have to get the TCM as well? If not, is it recommended?
Thanks
( Nick P, 09/09/2023 )
We do not tune the 2006+ Allison TCM so you would only be doing the ECM. ( Support )
2002 Avalanche 2500 3.73 gears, tires 265/75r16 vs 245/75r16 Can you adjust for tires? What is your recommendation on tire size? What does the tow/haul button do now with the new ecm?
( Bryan Gilbert, 05/27/2023 )
Yes, tire size can be adjusted in the programming to make the speedometer accurate. The smaller the tire, the less rotating mass which will translate to quicker acceleration and better MPG. The T/H button will push your shift points to a higher RPM before each shift. ( support )
Hi, I am from Quebec, Canada, I just want to know aproximately how much time I'll have to standby my ecm/tcm if I send you both from here?
Do you think it's more than three weeks??
may be the W22 Workhorse chassis is a 2003
and
The RV is a 2004 Newmar Country star
( Normand , 05/21/2023 )
I do not think it would be quite 3 weeks, typically the transit time to us would be approximately 1 week with regular ground service, we would have it for 2-3 days and then 1 week back to you. This could of course be sped up with a faster shipping service, maybe even cut down to 1.5 weeks. ( Support )
Is your dyno sheet numbers on a stock unit with just your tune? Or are there other modifications to reach those numbers? Ie. exhaust,intake modifications?
( Keith, 04/19/2023 )
Those graphs are from a stock unit, tuning only. ( Support )
Just purchased your ECM upgrade and want to change spark plugs and wires before changing. All the forums say you recommend setting the gap at .045 instead of .06. Should I do this before test drive?
( John Deaton Jr., 03/15/2023 )
With our Magnum spark plug wires you do not need to change the gap from .060 to .045. If you are using standard spark plug wires, then there is some benefit to the smaller gap. Regardless, you don't need to do this prior to test driving. ( Support )
I have a 2004 chevy 2500hd 4x4 work truck that I did a 6.0 to a 8.1 swap.had it tuned by local tuning guy but has never ran wright.no codes,no power.using ls pcm,raylar stage 2 rv cam,all sensors are new.everything mech checks out.4l80e trans.guttless.can u help?
( Chuck walters, 02/26/2023 )
Assuming all else is good like you describe, I'm sure we can make that 8.1L run right with our tuning. ( Support )
Looking to find a Tcm for my 2008 Gulf Stream bounty hunter motorhome, has 8.1 with Allison.
Will this up grade you offer work on it?
( Tom, 02/10/2023 )
We only supply the 5 speed Allison TCM which fits up to 2005 model year. You would have the Allison 6 speed which you will have to contact an Allison dealer about a replacement TCM. ( Support )
Will this work on 2002 Chevy 2500HD 8.1w/ 5 speed Allison. I may be swapping the transmission, because current one has lots of miles will tune still work on both?
( Nick, 01/26/2023 )
Yes, it will work. As long as you stick with an Allison 5 speed as the replacement, you won't have any issues. ( Support )
2008 w22 8.1 do you have and before and after hill climb data steep hills now I pull at 48mph pulling Jeep Wrangler
( Mitch syverson, 09/13/2022 )
Hello Mitch , the bar graphs that show before and after results are from our chassis dyno, which applies resistance to the rear tires on rollers that simulate a load or a hill. You will definitely have improvement on pulling grades while towing . 50-60 hp and 70-80 ft.lbs of torque will make a substantial difference . ( Support )
I installed the Banks headers with the H crossover this summer and fell like that was a big improvement. Not sure if I saw any gas MPG improvement but nice performance improvement, a few hills that before it would downshift I stay in overdrive. Would I see even more of a performance improvement with the ECM and TCM that it makes it worth the money?
2004 Winnebago Adventurer 8.1 65,000 miles
( James Turner III, 09/05/2022 )
Yes, the programming works very well whether the vehicle is completely stock or has modifications like yours. The Banks headers and programming are the two upgrades that make the most difference in performance on that vehicle. ( Support )
It is a 2002 avalanche 2500 not sure if it’s 4l80 or 85 but I just bought it and it has no cats and also just has 2 02 sensors is that something you can work with and what kind of gains would I be looking at if so?
( Robbie , 09/03/2022 )
This should have the 4L85E, which is just a slightly updated version of the 4L80E. We can definitely work with what you have and would expect gains of around 50-60 horsepower and 70-80 lb. ft torque. ( Support )
On the E.C.M. Does it come pre programed to this unit? Mine is Bad can't get the cam shaft sensor light to go off. And is this the total priced? Thank you!! 2001 Damon Challenger 8.1 vortex
( michael brewer, 09/02/2022 )
These do come programmed to the vehicle, plug and play. Since you have a bad ECM, it would not qualify for the core exchange as only good ECM's are accepted. That would make your total price $745 before any taxes or shipping. ( Support )
Is the core charge sent back once the core is returned to you?
( Kevin Parker, 08/31/2022 )
That is correct! ( Support )
Do you bave the capbility to tune an 8.1 engine that has afternarket parts already added (such as the stage 1 package offered by Raylar engineering; heads, camshaft)?
( Coleman, 07/31/2022 )
Yes we do. ( Support )
I have a 05 GMC Topkick and am looking to be able to reflash or remove the 75 mph govenor as well as improve performance, mpg, etc. I've read the comments and overall performance gains advertised. Will they be the same for my vehicle or can you provide expected improvements specific to my vehicle. It is stock from the OEM at this point. Also if you have recommendations that could be included with this tuner to optimize results. I would like to be sub$1k on overall spend. Please advise. thank you.
( Gary Wick, 07/20/2022 )
Not answered yet.
After the upgrade. Can you use E85 gas? 2004 8.1 L
( Chris ableitner, 06/03/2022 )
No. ( Support )
I installed a 2001 Vortec 8.1 with a Turbo 400 transmission in my 1958 Chevy Pickup. I have an aftermarket engine harness that came with an ECM. Will your unit work with my system and what will it improve.
( Pat Catanzarite, 05/13/2022 )
We are not familiar with this type of a setup, we would recommend some one that more specializes in engine swaps. ( Support )
2010 Winnebago Adventurer 37F. 3 Slides & Weighs In loaded 25,670 Lbs. Has 340 hp GM Vortec 8.1 W/A Allison MH 6 Speed Auto Overdrive Transmission. Coach Has 52,600 Miles On It.
What Kind Of Improvement In Horsepower & Torque Could I Expect?
Do I Have To Worry About Hurting Motor?
Yours Dave Wenninger
( David H Wenninger, 05/12/2022 )
Hi Dave, We have thousands of happy customers who have reported mileage gains and the HP and Torque #'s are from our chassis dyno, measured at the rear wheels. We include a data logger to plug into the diagnostic port, so you can send us the file and we can analyze the results to ensure optimum efficiency and performance of your engine to ensure safe operation.
- Fuel mileage improvement of up to 1 MPG
- Gains of 50-60 Horsepower and Torque Gains of 70-80 lb-ft
- Maintains speed and higher gears when climbing hills
- Improved throttle response coupled with more power makes driving more enjoyable
( Support )
I have a Jayco 2007 Kodiak Greyhawk. My vin number shows that my chassis is a 2006 with a 8.1 and a 6 speed Allison transmission. Do I need both a ECU and TCU or just the ECU. Will this help with some gas mileage also?
( Joe Brantley, 05/11/2022 )
You would only need the ECM tuning, the 6 speed Allison TCM isn't one we tune, we have reported mileage improvements of up to 1 mpg. ( Support )
Hello, I have a 2004 Winnebago Adventurer 33v and am looking at your TCM upgrade. I definitely have the Allison transmission but I'm not sure if it is a 5 speed. It's positions show 123D but it also has an overdrive switch. Is this considered a 5 speed?
( Edward Burris, 05/02/2022 )
Yes, you have the 5 speed Allison. If you have a W22 and the 8th digit of the VIN is a 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 (year designation) then it will have the 5 speed Allison. ( Support )
i have a 2006 itasca sunrise 38j ,8.1,6sp allison banks powerpak stainless headers and exhaust with cold air intake, irridium plugs and taylor wires and 30k miles.how would this set up benefit me? is it a plug and play unit?
( jason burnham, 04/23/2022 )
Yes, the tuning will compliment the air flow modifications you made with the Banks Power system. It is a direct ECM replacement, completely plug and play. ( Support )
If I use this ecm in conjunction with the Banks intake and complete exhaust system, will I see a combined improvement with both products working together? Thanks for your help.
( Jim Fogarty, 01/25/2022 )
Yes, the airflow improvements from the Banks products will compliment the ECM tuning and achieve good gains. ( Support )
Does your tuning package completely eliminate or reduce ATM (active torque management)? 04' 2500HD Silverado SRW
( COLEMAN, 01/20/2022 )
Yes, we can reduce or eliminate TQ management. If you order online, just put it in your order instructions what you want or if you call in, let the order agent know. ( Support )
will this raise or allow me to adjust the speed limiter?
( joe, 01/10/2022 )
We raise the limiter by default in the programming to 90 mph. If you want something different, just request it in the order instructions.
( Support )
Can I use the W22 ultra power upgrade on my 2004 W20 chassis 8.1L Chevy engine?
( Gary Williams, 01/03/2022 )
Yes, this will be compatible with your rig. ( Support )
What are the HP and Torque Gains on my 2010 Fleetwood 8.1L
( Michael D Smith, 12/27/2021 )
You would expect about 50-60 horsepower and 70-80 lb-ft torque increase. ( Support )
Hey, someone has stole the the ECM and TCM out of a unit we purchased at the auction. Can we use this a a direct replacement?
Thank you
919-818-7871
( David Hall, 11/25/2021 )
Yes, you can do this. You just would not be eligible for the core refund as you won't have any to send in exchange. ( Support )
Hello, I recently purchased and installed your ecu into my 2002 suburban 8.1. All is well runs great. The truck has a cold air intake, magna flow exhaust cat back system and 35” tires. Is there any other further tuning needed for my application or is the regular one you sent me fine for what I’ve got going on? Thanks for your help
( Anthony , 11/14/2021 )
Unless your speedometer is off due to the tire size change, you wouldn't require additional tuning changes. ( Support )
Hello, I have a 2005 GMC Yukon Xl 2500 with the 8.1L Vortec and a fully Built 4L85E lots of upgrades in the transmission, with factory shift points for towing not racing. What would I expect from using your product for my truck? I tow a 9,000# travel trailer through the Mountains, would it help with towing? and what type of MPG would I expect? Thanks.
( Tony, 11/12/2021 )
The horsepower and torque gains, as well as optimizing the shift points and pressures, will make a noticeable difference when pulling in the hills. Not only will you have better acceleration, you will be able to maintain a bit higher speeds and gears than when stock. We don't guarantee any sort of MPG gains, but we do hear back from a lot of our customers that the mileage was slightly improved. ( Support )
So is the core charge an exchange for the ecm abd tcm of my factory ones on my motorhome?
( Scott Pollard, 11/05/2021 )
Yes, that is correct. ( Support )
2003 c5500
8.1
Old swans truck completely runs on propane no gas. Do your tuners work for propane systems.
( Jeff, 10/12/2021 )
Hello Jeff, Unfortunately our tune only works on gasoline powered engines . ( Support )
I live in California, where RV must be smog tested every 2 years. Your ECM has your decal on it and it looks a little different from stock ECM, which will draw attention to it during smog inspection. What is the fee to set MY computer to your parameters, so it will still look stock?
( DONALD MADDEN, 07/20/2021 )
We can't ship this product into California due to CARB regulations. The sticker does not have to be on the module, though. ( Support )
Do you sell an OBD2 scanner for the Kodiak?
( Nicole, 07/19/2021 )
We recommend the ScanGauge2: https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/SG2-ScanGaugeII-OBD2-Vehicle-Monitor ( Support )
2005 Tiffin with 8.1 Chevy. Do I need to change both TCM and ECM
( Michael Bourque, 07/06/2021 )
You do not need to change the TCM , it is an option to further optimize the shift points , as well as lowering the speed to shift into overdrive under light throttle and further reduce downshifting. ( Support )
I have a 2006 Fleetwood Southwind. Do I need just the ECM? If so, what is the cost?
( Mark E Conant, 06/23/2021 )
Yes, just the ECM for your application. The cost is $595 and if you want to pay for a core exchange, that is an additional $150. ( Support )
Do I have to do anything else to my motorhome after I install this,For example,Different exhaust or anything,Also the motorhome has 47,500 miles on it will it hurt anything at that mileage.2004 Winnabago Adventurer 33V,Thanks Ron
( Ron Severn, 06/22/2021 )
No, you do not need to make any other modifications and you won't be hurting anything at that mileage. ( Support )
For my 2008 fleetwood with w22 chassis do I just get the ecm upgraded or do you do the tcm too? Also when I send back the old ecm do I get the refund? Thanks.
Btw my v10 tune you did on my other rv is awesome!
( Bryan, 06/20/2021 )
The 08 would just be an ECM upgrade as we don't tune the 6 speed Allison TCM . When we receive your old ECM we would refund the core charge . ( Support )
I put a raylar cam bp202 will your new computer make it idle better?
( Shawn , 05/07/2021 )
Yes, we can tune for the upgraded camshaft. ( Support )
I have a 2007 GMC TopKick with the 8.1 and Allison automatic was trying to figure out if you're programer will unlock the fifth and 6th Gear
( Kevin Glover, 04/08/2021 )
Unfortunately, we are unable to tune the TCM on your truck. ( Support )
Can this be used in a boat?
( Jerrod , 04/04/2021 )
We do not have any experience in tuning the 8.1L in a marine application. ( Support )
I have a 2001 Kodiak 8.1 that was turned into propane I turned it back to gas there seems to be a code turned off fuel injectors from computer need new computer from when Truck was built before propane was installed
( David Burch, 03/22/2021 )
If you want to send your VIN, we can check to see if we have the proper calibrations on file to do this for you. ( Support )
Hi. I have a Fleetwood Pace Arrow Workhorse 2004 (vin shows 03 production) with 112,500 miles. I am considering upgrading with your custom tuned engine and transmission module. Would you recommend this? I bought this unit with about 80000 miles on it and have always wished it had little more power. It has bank’s system installed by previous original owner. Also like idea of overdrive under 50. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks
( Clarence Snapper, 01/23/2021 )
For what you are describing, it sounds like you would be quite happy with the upgrade. As long as the engine and transmission are in good health, the added power will not cause any reliability issues. We have tuned many 8.1L's with more miles than you do with no problems. ( Support )
Sorry to bother, just want to ensure this is the right product for a 2001 GMC Savana 3500 8.1 W/4L80E, currently stock, and whether I will be required to perform the passkey relearn and crankshaft position procedures, and if so, would you be so kind as to recommend the tool(s) needed to do so. Thank you!
( Marc Carignan, 01/16/2021 )
Yes, we can tune the 8.1L/4L80E combination in your GMC Savanna. You would be required to do the passkey relearn but that is a simple process that does not require any tools. The crankshaft relearn procedure would require a scan tool, but most automotive scan tools will have the ability to do this quickly. ( Support )
Bought my coach used. How can I tell if it already had an Ultrapower update ?
( DON SIMMONDS, 01/08/2021 )
Hello Don, Unless your coach was tuned at our Shop in WA state the ECM would have a UltraPower decal on it . ( Support )
2004 Itasca Sunova 27C P32 chassis 4L85E gm transmission 8.1L Vortec. What will your ECM do to enhance performance of my rv.
( Tim, 12/10/2020 )
The engine horsepower and torque will be increased which will allow the RV to accelerate quicker and without as much struggle. It will also be able to maintain speeds and gears in situations where you would normally lose speed and downshift. ( Support )
I have 2004 Itasca Sunova 27C P32 workhorse chassis with GM 4L85-E transmission. Is the TCM and ECM replaced? Will this work for my rv?
Thanks,
Tim
( Tim Nadaud, 12/10/2020 )
You would only select the ECM as your P32 does not have an Allison TCM. ( Support )
Do you send me new ecu/Tcm that I just plug and play? Or do I send you mine ans you just reflash them?
( Jake, 11/25/2020 )
If you choose to pay the core charges, we would send you modules that are programmed and plug and play. If you decide to send your modules in, we would re-flash them and send back. ( Support )
Hi, i just bought a 2006 c5500 (ex uhaul) with the 26' rails. What's different that i can't get the transmission tuned aswell?
( Alex, 11/14/2020 )
The truck needs to have the standard 5 speed Allison controller in order for us to tune it: https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/29537441-Workhorse-Allison-5-Speed-Transmission-Computer ( Support )
Does the 8.1 tune run on 87 fuel or does it need 91/93. I did not see it listed as fuel needed.
( Gary Gray, 10/07/2020 )
You could use either with our tune. The Higher octane would just allow for a higher spark advance. Most customers just use 87 when fueling. ( Support )
Currently all stock '05 Kodiak 5500 RV chassis - 8.1 and I think the 1000 Allison. 60K miles. Pipe is black - always smells "rich" at idle (no codes). Towing 4200lb jeep. Definitely doing the ECM and TCM - hoping it helps on the hills next trip out, and that something better than 5.5-6.5mgp is possible (back to the black pipe). Your recommendation - is there much to be gained by deleting the cats, and disconnecting the "output" O2 sensors (but leaving the input), or disconnecting all of them? If we're looking at minimal improvement, I'll just leave 'em in-place. Thanks!
( JT Barber, 10/06/2020 )
JT, The black pipes are totally normal for this engine, and removing the exhaust components would actually have a negative effect on the performance. So you would be doing great with just the tuning! ( Support )
Hello, I have an 04’ Winnebago Itasca Sunova on the P32 8.1 Workhorse chassis with an Allison trans. Will this work on my motorhome? I couldn’t find anything specific about the P series only the W series. Thanks!
( Josh, 09/18/2020 )
Your P32 does not have an Allison transmission, it is a GM 4L85-E transmission. This transmission is controlled by the engine computer so you would not require purchasing a separate tune for the transmission. ( Support )
2002 Workhorse 8.1L & Allison. Are you able to remove the vehicle speed limiter? Thank You
( Harvey Fletcher, 09/17/2020 )
Yes, we can do that. ( Support )
I have a couple of questions. I have larger tires on my truck and a cold air intake. Can you program the ecu for tire size and the CAI, and can you ship the ecu to CA?
( Steve Church, 08/12/2020 )
Yes we can do all those things. You just aren't supposed to use the ECU in California. ( Support )
For a 2001 Chevrolet 2500HD with 8.1L and Allison, how does the tune and the removal of torque management affect the function of tow/haul mode?
( Jonathon Morton, 06/06/2020 )
Torque management remains intact in tow/haul mode. All other operations of tow/haul will remain the same unless otherwise specified. ( Support )
If the hardware configuration is changed from complete stock to Banks torque tube, Banks ram air intake, ultra muffler at once, and always fill 91 octane premium gas (93 is not available in CA) instead of regular gas, can the customs tune be more aggressive than your 'normal" custom tune in order to take a full advantage of more in/out air flow and higher octane's wider detonation tolerance? My apologies in advance if my question is not point on.
( Diego O., 05/14/2020 )
Yes, we can advance timing a little bit more with the higher octane. Just put that in the notes and we will compensate for that. ( Support )
I have a 2007 W-22 Workhorse chassis with a 1000 series 6 speed transmission. Will your custom tuner work with the 6 speed transmission? Also, how long does it take to get the new tuner after I have sent in my old ECM?
( Kenneth Simpson, 04/14/2020 )
Yes this will work on your RV. Our typical turn around time is 2-3 business days right now. ( Support )
I have a 2004 Damon on a W22 chassis e/w an 8.1 Vortec engine. I am looking to upgrade my performance on this RV, It has an Allison transmission also. Is the ECM and TCM upgrade that you offer a "plug and play" installation or do they have to be programmed upon installation? I will be sending my ECM and TCM cores, so how much do I send when I order your units?
( Steve Shirley, 03/31/2020 )
Yes it is plug and play. We program the ECM/TCM specifically to your VIN so that when you plug them in, there is no additional steps required. Some pickups and SUV's require a relearn procedure but the Workhorse and Kodiak medium duty trucks do not. You will need to place the order online and then send the ECM/TCM in with a copy of your order. ( Support )
Can I purchase a UPWH 8.1 Custom Tuning ECM and pay the core but keep my original instead of returning it?
( James Ellerman, 09/18/2019 )
Yes, you can keep your original, not a problem, you just won't receive your core refund of course. ( Support )
My truck is a 05 2500HD 4x4 8.1 5 speed Allison can you re-tune the eng. and the tran. I have removed the cats and installed a cold air intake. I would like to keep my original ECM. can you also send me a cost. thank you for your time sincerely Pat Kinahan
( Pat Kinahan, 06/23/2019 )
Yes we certainly can! The cost is $595 for the engine with a $150 core. The TCM tuning is $100 and the core is $400. ( Support )
Hi I had the ecm and tcm done also added banks torque tubes added, would I be able to run the overdrive while towing a 5k trailer now? Thanks in advance.
( jeffrey wyllie, 05/28/2019 )
Yes you should be fine running in overdrive. ( Support )
We purchased a Fleetwood Fiesta LX 32K brand new in 2007 we have 20K miles we pull motor cycle trailer. We have Ram Air Intake the GM 8.1L has good power will your UltraPower Tunner help and would we need on for the Allison 6 Speed Transmission.
( David Herman, 04/10/2019 )
Yes our UltraPower Custom Tuning will work very well in conjunction with the Banks Ram Air intake. You won't need anything else for the 6 speed transmission. ( Support )
2008 GMC Topkick C4500 8.1L When replacing the PCM for the tuned one will the passlock and crank position relearn be necessary. If it helps the key for ignition is common key. I bought a blank online and had the key cut locally as they didnt have blanks. No relarn then. Based on pictures it looks like Passlock.
( mike, 03/30/2019 )
The only vehicles we usually have to do a passkey and crankshaft relearn procedure on are light duty vehicles. The medium duty Kodiaks and Workhorse chassis don't need it. ( Support )
Do you need to have the Allison for this?
I have a 04' (03 built) P-32 with the GM4 trans.
( Kevin J Parker, 02/18/2019 )
Yes we do, we custom tune the ECM on Workhorse chassis with both the Allison transmission as well as the 4L80/4L85E transmission. ( Support )
Hello, I'm doing an 8.1 vortec swap that will be mated to a TH400. Donor truck is an 2001 K2500 Suburban. I want to lose the VATS and keep the emissions.
Is it possible to program for manual transmission and still keep the original Cal ID?
( Dan Green, 02/13/2019 )
Yes, this is possible. ( Support )
How much change (if any) do you make to torque management with this eco tune?
Thanks
( Kevin, 02/11/2019 )
On trucks and SUV's we generally remove torque management in normal (not tow/haul) mode unless otherwise requested. ( Support )
What is the turn around time on doing ecm and tcm.
( Charles McKnight, 01/18/2019 )
Typically 1-2 business days. ( Support )
I have a 2005 Yukon with 8.1. I do live in Carnation WA so not to far. In the above questions concerning another yukon you mention that may require passkey relearn and crankshaft postion Procrdures. being not to far is this something you can do at your shop in centraila. 2, does the tune change at what peak torque is obtained. stock is 3200 RPMs. getting another 70 Lbs of Torque and HP. would i need to beef up the L485E transmission? its reted at 460LBs of torque but not sure if that means on the ground or not.
( gary armstrong, 09/04/2018 )
You can call or text and schedule an appointment with Barbara to have this done at our facility. 360-736-9494 You would not need to change the transmission in any way after the tune :-) ( Support )
I just want to make sure I'm look at this correctly assuming all these numbers are RWHP and RWTQ.
Your stock numbers: 268 rwhp / 419 rwtq
normal gm truck stock 281 rwhp / 341 rwtq (from what I can find behind a 4L80E)
ultrapower tuned 305 rwhp / 475 rwtq
If these numbers are correct, with everything else stock and just your ECM I could possibly gain in my 2005 yukon xl 8.1 24 rwhp and 134 RWTQ?
Am I missing something? If not this is a great deal and I would be very interested.
Thank you for your help.
( whitney thornbrough, 06/05/2018 )
The problem of comparing horsepower and torque numbers at the rear wheel is that all dyno's will measure differently. Type of dyno, elevation, temperature, calibration of dyno, etc. all come into play when you are comparing numbers from different dynos. The gains that we get on the RV's is just about the same as the Kodiaks, Pickups and SUV's with the 8.1L. ( Support )
1. Have you ever done a dyno for the 8.1 4L80e trans combo?
2. "GM Trucks with 8.1L Engine (May require Passkey and Crankshaft Position Relearn Procedures)" Are these hard procedures? Would it be necessary on a 2005 yukon xl 2500 8.1?
3. You stated your tune requires a higher octane, 89? 91? If i run on 87 will it damage anything or just lose a little performance? Would it ping and knock?
Thanks in advance.
( Whitney Thornbrough, 06/01/2018 )
Yes we have dyno'd several 8.1L/4L80E combo's but mostly in the P32 Workhorse configuration. Results are very similar to what we see with the 8.1L/Allison. We do not state that a higher octane fuel is required, we tune for 87 octane but CAN tune for a higher octane if desired. No pinging or knocking as long as your engine and sensors are healthy :)
The crankshaft relearn will require a scan tool but only takes a minute or two to complete. The Passkey relearn is a fairly lengthy process (~30 minutes) but is very easy, we can send instructions on this if needed.
( Support )
I pull a Ford Edge and sometimes a trailer which weighs loaded 6000 lbs. Will I have pinging on long uphills in hot weather and need to run higher octane? Can I keep my stock ECM in case smog laws in California become tighter and peace of mind.
Thanks
( Steven Thomas, 05/21/2018 )
We do not push the spark advance to the point that you need to run higher octane, under any conditions. You can keep your stock ECM, you would just not get your core refund back ($150). ( Support )
I'm building a truck with a 8.1l engine, the engine is coming out of a donor C3500HD 2002 YEAR MODEL. what POWER GAINS CAN I SEE WITHA TUNE.
( Avery, 04/07/2018 )
Not answered yet.
I am considering using U P 8.1 engine tune on my 32 foot 2006 Fleetwood Terra lx motorhome. My research states that it should have an Allison 6 speed, Im sure it has a 5 speed transmission.
Ques. 1. Will my vin tell which trans I have. Is there a better way to id my trans?
Ques. 2 My 8.1 has 19,000 miles on it, being a 2006 does the Allison trans need a computer upgrade, or is that upgrade for earlier transmissions.
Ques. 3. I am going to upgrade the suspension i.e. sway bars f + r and your rear track bar. I am going to upgrade in stages. I think I should start with your rear track bar for my w22. Your advice please
Ques. $ Can you recommend a Workhorse chassis shop in the Phoenix area?.
Thanking you in advance, Robert Myers, Mesa, AZ. ph.605-415-6518
( robert myers, 03/14/2018 )
Not answered yet.
I f I have you program my ECM, do you know if it will effect my emissions test here in Denver CO, or will I have to have a stock
ecm for the testing?
( Kevin, 03/01/2018 )
We have no issues passing emissions with the custom programming in place. You can keep the stock ECM for a backup or peace of mind but it really is not necessary. ( Support )
Hello I have 2003 Workhorse w22 8.1 . I have been running strange problem . When the motor home starts and we drive it down the road it runs fine. But when I stop for 10-15 minutes it start up very rough and will not take the gas. It will only drive at 10-15 miles an hour. I stop and wait about 10 minutes and it starts up and runs fine. The codes it pulls are P1516 and P0151 . Does this sound like a computer problem and need reprogramming ? If that is the case I would like to get it in to you as soon we get back in town. I did the wire pull and checked the connections at the throttle Body and the tac and found nothing. The unit has 18530 miles on it. I did install the rear sway bar that I ordered from you and it works great.
( Gary Croson , 02/28/2018 )
Not answered yet.
you show allison tune for 01-04 do you have one for my 2006 2500HD with 8.1 If you
do how much for both ecm and tcm if I send both to you and how long does it usually take thanks
( Dave Dvorak, 02/06/2018 )
Our tuning on the Allison transmission computer is only for the 5 speed controller up to model year 2004. The 6 speed controller in your pickup is not supported. We can tune your engine computer for $595 and if you send yours in instead of buying a core it is a 1-2 day turn around. ( Support )
with the upgrade of the ecm power boost will the engine noise be louder???
( c.r. kent, 12/17/2017 )
There will be no difference in the noise of the engine. ( Support )
Will tbis work with a chevy 3500 . I tow a dunp trailer [8400lbs empty] with up to 20000lbs of material. 29000 loaded
( Sean Reed, 12/06/2017 )
Yes this will work with a Chevrolet pickup. ( Support )
Once you receive the TCM, how long will it take to re-program and be returned? Thank you.
Mike
( Michael W. Caldwell, 11/09/2017 )
Not answered yet.
Hi I'm interested in ordering this ecm and was wondering if the coach will still be smog legal with the programming. I live in southern California.
Thanks
( Shad Warner, 07/24/2017 )
Yes our ECM programming will pass California emissions testing with better than stock results. It does not show up on their scanners as having been modified. ( Support )
I have a 2007 Winnebago Itasca Suncruiser RV with the Chevy Vortec 8100 gas motor. I am interested in towing a vehicle and was told that a custom tune would help with more horsepower/towing power, etc without shortening the life of the motor? Is this one I want? Or do you have another better solution?
( todd stanley, 07/10/2017 )
Yes, this our best upgrade for both power and fuel economy. There are no reliability issues and we even include an engine data recorder so we can do a "health check" on your engine. ( Support )
Hi, I was wondering if you tune it to the mods that are installed on the motorhome currently. In my case, I have a Banks Ram air intake and I have Magnaflow performance exhaust but I do not have headers. Can you tune it to those mods? And would the performance gain be different? Thanks
Jerry
( Jerry McManus, 06/19/2017 )
The tuning can be altered to modifications made on the vehicle. The mufflers do not require it but if we know you have headers or air intake we can tweak some settings to get just a little more out of it.
( Support )
I wish to convert my motor to run E85. I do not wish to use an add-on device (Have one now that is malfunctioning)
I'd like to have the ECU programmed to allow ethanol and ethanol blends. Can you do that?
Thanks!
( Frank Caridi, 05/02/2017 )
Hi,
We do not have any previous experience with tuning to run E85. Workhorse sent out a TSB that was very adamant that E85 NOT be used in the 8.1L.
( Support )
In reading about the custom tuning ECM talked about 60 -70 gains in horsepower and in torque same as the $2600 banks kit why would anyone buy the banks kit. Thanks Jim
( james dean, 03/03/2017 )
Hi James,
There are other benefits to the Banks system other than just performance. The reliability of their TorqueTube headers make them a good upgrade if you have exhaust manifold leaks. Letting the engine breathe better does also help but on these electronically controlled engines, the ECM tuning is always going get you the most performance for the money.
( Support )
i have a 2003 w32 with the 8.1 in it. will the Allison tune fit it with no issues. It seems every thing I look at says except 2003. Thank you Barney Chappell
( barney chappell, 02/22/2017 )
Barney,
Yes, our tuning works with no issues on the 2003 model year.
( Support )
The 8.1 has hypereutectic pistons that are very sensitive to detonation and would limit the amount of timing used with 87 octane without causing engine damage (holes in pistons). Gains of 60hp/70tq without changing hard parts seems hard to believe, or is the factory programming extremely conservative?
( Tom, 07/18/2016 )
Hi Tom,
As long as the mass air flow sensor is clean and there are no other issues present we have no problem getting those gains on 87 octane with pre-detonation. What a lot of people don't know was that the 8.1L was offered in a variety of applications ie; marine, auto, medium duty and RV without much difference in programming other than calibration changes for the speedometer and fuel tank size. We are able to find a lot of "hidden" power without hurting reliability, I have several customers with over 100K miles running our programming.
( Support )
I am a new customer to this web site and going though the workhorse 8.1 section I notice this ultra power GM custom tuning and was wondering if it should help the performance of my rv and fuel mileage. How does it work? Thanks joe
( Joe Alcantar, 07/09/2016 )
Hi Joe,
The UltraPower Custom Tuning is one of our most popular performance products for the 8.1L. It is a new engine computer that is programmed with your vehicle info and settings that optimize the power and mileage. We see gains of about 60 horsepower and 70 ft-lbs torque as well as fuel mileage gains between .5-1 MPG.
( Support )
Is the core charge a full refund once I send my ecm back to you? Can't afford to lose the truck to long if I send the one currently in the truck for reprogramming.
2007 Chevy C4500 Kodiak
- Bucket truck
Thanks Mike
( Mike konke, 05/21/2016 )
Mike,
Yes the core charge is fully refunded upon the return of your ECM.
( Support )
Is there reprograming required, or is it just a plug and play add on device
( Mel, 01/28/2016 )
Mel,
It is a programming of the engine computer so either you would remove your computer and send it in for the reprogram or you pay for the core and we send you a computer and you just swap out the computers, essentially making it plug & play.
( Support )
I have a Workhorse R-26 Chassis, rear pusher with an Allison transmission. Is the Ultra Power compatible with this setup, and where might the computer be located. Also does this device plug into the computer, or is the computer replaced. Is there any programing required?
( Mel, 01/27/2016 )
Hi Mel,
Yes, the UltraPower is compatible with the R26 UFO chassis. The ECM will be located at the rear of the coach on the drivers side in a compartment right behind the rear wheel behind a removable panel.
( Support )
I'm considering the Ultra Power upgrade on my my 2006 Southwind W22 which is a California vehicle. Would the programing have any impact on California DMV smog checks? Thanks, Chris
( Chris, 12/10/2015 )
Chris,
We are 100% confident that you will have no problems with passing your smog testing with the UltraPower programming. We have a ton of customers in California that run the programming and we've never once had a report of smog failure due to the programming. In fact, in most cases the emissions are actually reduced and they pass with better than normal readings.
( Support )
I have a 09 class a safari, just purchased. How can I tell if a tune has already been done because it runs pretty decent?Would your name be on the ecm? Thanks. Garry.
( Garry Shaw, 09/29/2015 )
Garry,
If you have the name of the last owner we may be able to look through our database to see if we have done it. The only other way to tell is if there is a sticker on the ECM or you can mail us the ECM and we can check the program.
( Support )
I would like to have more power when going up hills. I don't like my tranny to downshift to 3rd. gear at highway speed because then my motor is running 4000 RPM. Will this product help with my 2005 Gulfstream (2004 W-24 Workhorse) pull grade without downshifting from 5-4-3 and instead just drop from 5-4 gear? Also is this product just plug it in and it learns and adapts to my motorhome? Would I also need a TCM to reduce downshifts? I like to drive highway speed 70-75 MPH but do drive slower at times for my wife, get my point! Will it perform well in the 65-75 MPH range?
( David Andersen, 09/26/2015 )
David,
Yes the UltraPower Performance Programming would work well for what you are trying to accomplish. It will help it hold the higher gears going up hills and also get you up to speed easier. The computer will be programmed with your VIN and will be 100% compatible with your vehicle. The TCM reprogram allows the transmission to shift into overdrive at a lower speed under light throttle and it does help a little bit with holding 5th and 4th gears longer.
( Support )
Just wondering if it will hurt the engine at all not familiar with this upgrade? I have a 2005 Georgie boy Landau with the Allison trans . Also where would the computer be for me to take it out? Thanks a lot ,Jim
( jim, 07/01/2015 )
We have been doing the UltraPower programming for over 10 years now with no ill effects on engines in anyway. In fact, we have had initial customers that have been running the UltraPower since 2005 that have been sending in oil samples to Blackstone Labs for analysis on a regular basis with no signs of increased wear compared to stock engines.
The engine computer is mounted right above the radiator and can be accessed from either the front access hatch or from behind through the engine doghouse cover.
( Support )
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